[Team Andromeda]

Yes believe the hype People , this game is incredible on every level , the scale , the action , the graphics just are unmatched to what we have on display in this tile . Honestly its just incredible, what is happing on screen, and it plays and controls brilliantly .

[GunnerX]

Started playing last night. Just for an hour or so and I'm not as enthusiastic about it as you are. So far it's more of the same stuff. Graphics are good but I don't find it as out of this world once again. Maybe it's the upconversion that's messing it up. I'll try changing the PS3 to 720p to see if it changes anything.

I still have GoW and GoW2 for the PS2 sealed. The only one I played through a lot was the PSP version. But then I'm a PS3 hater so I'm not qualified to say anything about PS3 games.

[core238]

The demo was fun, even though if it appeared to be more of the same. But then God of War is one of the extreme few franchises, where "more of the same" is not a bad thing. It's no Bayonetta, but then Bayonetta is a lot like the Spanish Inquisition; no one expects the Inquisition.

Anyway, as for the God of War 3 demo, the only bit I was disappointed with, were the fixed camera angles - that is way too old school, for a current-gen game. Had Bayonetta and even the lowly, underrated Darksiders, both not addressed that issue, then God of War 3 would be golden. Either way, I am sure once you overlook the niggling issue, this game is going to rock.

First however, I still have to finish God of War 2. Got stuck about 2/3 of the way in a few years back, and got too busy with other games, and kinda never went back. Recently started it over on God of War: Collection (a title I highly recommend for God of War fans, and a treatment I have heard 343 was giving to Halo/Halo 2), and am going to power through it so I can get God of War 3 (and beat it), before summer. Will post my reactions then.

[Team Andromeda]

GunnerX, on 18 March 2010 - 10:53 AM, said:

So far it's more of the same stuff. Graphics are good but I don't find it as out of this world once again.

I don't get this more of the same .. How many really moan that HALF Life Ep 1& II was just more of the same , that HALO III was more of the same , That Gears of War 2 was more of the same , That Splinter Cell III was more of the same , or that Orta was just more of the same . Who cares when they play well , and push the host system to its limits , I don't .
And to be me the Graphics on some of the bosses (boss 2 is eye popping )_, the scale (which is just off the chart) I just haven't seen before in any game , on any system .
My only problem is the sound seems rather quite, coming out of my 5.1 , compared to most other 360 , PS3 games ???

[GunnerX]

I don't have issues with sound. I have it set to 7.1 and it's quite good.

[Three of Nineteen]

Well I have really annoying neighbours so I couldn't crank the sound to the max, but what I did hear I liked.
I got the game Monday and finished it last night. Loved most of it.
I didn't like the Head of Helios shine at hidden treasures thing, it seemed a lazy way to hide secrets instead of actually making small puzzles out of getting to some hidden powerups. I ended up missing 2 whole segments of health for the final fights, which was very noticeable. Most extra items seem quite useless again, at least they only had one level to power up this time. And of the extra weapons only the Cestus I found really useful, the two others played too much like the Blades to really make a mark for themselves, apart from the odd soul that is VERY useful (Gorgon, cough, cough). The graphics look great for environments, skin, effects, blood, water and so on, but damn they could learn a thing or two when it comes to hair, it looks so awful. Also the colour palette is a bit drab, I know it fits, but it is annoying when you lose sight of you character in a crowd of enemies because it gets hard to distinguish at a quick glance sometimes. Bayonetta solves that elegantly by having your character be black and the enemies in white and golden tones mostly.
GoW3 has the production values and epic scale of the story, though Kratos' one-track mind makes me laugh sometimes. Why piss off or kill some people that actually want to help you?
Bayonetta is very tongue in cheek and self-aware in a good way. Bayonetta beats GoW3 hands down in terms of fun combat mechanics and combat in general. You feel more in control in Bayonetta than you do in GoW3.

It is all nit-picking though. It is a great game, not sure if it is a buy like Bayonetta though. The campaign can be finished in a few sittings and the combat just feels a bit loose to me to make me want to go through it again at higher difficulty settings. As a rental for a weekend without your significant other though it is a sure hit

This post has been edited by Three of Nineteen: 18 March 2010 - 02:50 PM

[Justin]

Team Andromeda, on 18 March 2010 - 03:31 PM, said:

I don't get this more of the same ..

Me neither. I can't judge God of War 3 since I don't have a PS3, but there's a reason these games have a number at the end of the title. When I buy a sequel, more of the same is exactly what I expect.

[whippingboy]

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When I buy a sequel, more of the same is exactly what I expect.

That may be the case for some- but when reviewers give the game nearly perfect scores, and others say BELIEVE the HYPE... well that's when "more of the same" no longer cuts it.

Gunner, Core and 30f19 addressed ALL of my hang ups in their response.

It's fan service- if you liked the previous GoW you won't be disappointed- but I would say just the opposite: "Don't believe the hype" it's JUST another sequel. How this game is getting near perfect scores is beyond me. This is not a reboot of the property like a new Zelda or Mario- it's a blatant sequel that adds little new ground gameplay wise.

Does it improve presentation wise on the previous 2 titles- sure - it better- it's on PS3 instead of PS2! Is it better than Dante's Inferno- yes, but does it have the depth of skill and difficulty range of a Bayonetta or Ninja Gaiden- no.

I also don't care about the story at all- the character is seriously flawed as he cares for no one and seemingly lacks motivation other than his own ego? His personality is so over the top (killing helpless mortals that don't attempt to get in his way anyway) makes you laugh at the absurdity.

Character development wise by comparison- (told through cutscenes, random comments and in boss battles) Bayonetta with it's out of left field quirkiness or Ninja Blade with it's flat out CAMPY tongue in cheek boss QTE's (surfing on a missile, using a motorcycle 100's of stories in the air to kill a giant boss) is far more entertaining than watching crabby Kratos do a "Hulk Smash" impression throughout the entire game.

Again, God of War fans will rejoice - it's been a long wait for this franchise to reach a next gen system... but it's surprisingly un-advanced from last gen to this.

Some of your comparisons IMHO are unfounded: Halo 3 was LEAPS and BOUNDS better than Halo 2 by adding co op, FORGE, and even more stat tracking- maybe these don't seem like big advancements to you TA, but to the Halo fans- this was HUGE. Admittedly, the single player was hardly advanced at all- but we're talking about the game as a whole- the sum of it's parts. Gears of War added Horde mode (admittedly through DLC) which not only added much needed replay to the Gears property- but also got others online that perhaps didn't care for the limited vs. mode of the 1st game (which felt tacked on to me). Horde's popularity has been felt so strongly that ODST,Borderlands, and Army of 2: 40th day ALL added similar modes- again- quite a gameplay changer. Splinter Cell 3- you mean Chaos Theory? So adding Co Op to a single player genre like stealth- or weapon loadouts at the beginning of each level that changed the gameplay from stealth to assault, AND adding a VS. mode so original and ground breaking (3rd person spies vs. 1st person Mercs) all of that was MORE of the same gameplay to you?

So Team Andromeda, having played more than I of God ofW3: how did they add to the gameplay never seen before in your eyes?

This post has been edited by whippingboy: 18 March 2010 - 03:38 PM

[Team Andromeda]

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Some of your comparisons IMHO are unfounded: Halo 3 was LEAPS and BOUNDS better than Halo 2 by adding co op, FORGE

HALO 3 was more of the same , and we all know it , and of course it was leaps and bounds over HALO II, given that HALO II was such poor single player game . Gears II was more of the same, just everything factored up Max 10 , and yes Splinter Cell 3 was more of the same , much like SC IV , Maybe that's why the Team felt that had to radially had to change the gameplay , for the new SC . You know Co-Op was added to RE 5 , but for many people it was more of the same . I'm expecting HALO Reach to play a lot like HALO , I want more of the same , I want more HALO (the 1st game) only with the best next gen graphics and environments and everything factored up to the Max.

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Character development wise by comparison- (told through cutscenes, random comments and in boss battles) Bayonetta with it's out of left field quirkiness or Ninja Blade with it's flat out CAMPY tongue in cheek boss QTE's (surfing on a missile, using a motorcycle 100's of stories in the air to kill a giant boss) is far more entertaining than watching crabby Kratos do a "Hulk Smash" impression throughout the entire game

You got and Completed Bayonetta ?, much less God Of War III. Colour me impressed , or are we just going on what Internet tell us ?

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This is not a reboot of the property like a new Zelda or Mario- it's a blatant sequel that adds little new ground gameplay wise.

I must have missed the reboot of the Mario or Zelda franchise , because they've all played very much the same , as to when they 1st went 3D . And I really doubt Mario Galaxy II is going play any different to Mario Galaxy , do you ? Don't tell me , People want more of the same , or that playing with Yoshi (oh my) is something we've not seen before .

This post has been edited by Team Andromeda: 18 March 2010 - 11:02 PM

[dahssun]

whippingboy, on 19 March 2010 - 12:36 AM, said:

Some of your comparisons IMHO are unfounded: Halo 3 was LEAPS and BOUNDS better than Halo 2 by adding co op, FORGE, and even more stat tracking- maybe these don't seem like big advancements to you TA, but to the Halo fans- this was HUGE. Admittedly, the single player was hardly advanced at all- but we're talking about the game as a whole- the sum of it's parts. Gears of War added Horde mode (admittedly through DLC) which not only added much needed replay to the Gears property- but also got others online that perhaps didn't care for the limited vs. mode of the 1st game (which felt tacked on to me).

Gameplay wise, most of the sequels are "more of the same", regardless of the new game modes (i.e. Hordes, Forge etc...).
That said, it's not true you can't get enjoyment from a "more of the same" sequel. Sometimes changes just for the sake of them are less welcome than a familiar gameplay which proved to be successful.

GOW3 will not just please fans of the series, but also attract new gamers who didn't play it on PS2.

BTW, is GOW3 any better than the demo? The demo had some fluidity issue in the background scrolling.

[Team Andromeda]

dahssun, on 19 March 2010 - 12:27 AM, said:

BTW, is GOW3 any better than the demo? The demo had some fluidity issue in the background scrolling.

Yeah its better , only trouble is some of the low-ish textures remain , Oh and the double jump control is a nightmare

[segadc]

I want this game and a PS3 so bad but its not possible. Been playing God of War Chains of Olympus on my PSP as a way to stop some of the pain.

[whippingboy]

Uh yeah...PM sent Team Andromeda- Let's take this outside!

[Team Andromeda]

whippingboy, on 19 March 2010 - 05:59 PM, said:

Uh yeah...PM sent Team Andromeda- Let's take this outside!

Don't send me PM's , Let's debate on here .

[Red Ronin]

"Yes believe the hype People , this game is incredible on every level , the scale , the action , the graphics just are unmatched to what we have on display in this tile . Honestly its just incredible, what is happing on screen, and it plays and controls brilliantly ."

I'm not likely to play God of War III any time soon. But... This tends to be an anti-hype bulletin board. When you tag your initial post with "Believe the Hype !!!" you are bound to be challenged. I mean, come on - three exclamation points? Enthusiasm is cool, but most of us would prefer you expound a bit more about the specifics of your impressions. Yes, that is preferred over what appears to have become a "my game is better than your game, so there" roundelay.

So I ask, what makes God of War III so great? Why should I play it? Thanks!


Red Ronin

[ChewyDogg]

Just finished GoW2 last night. I may wait a bit on GoW3, I've had it up to here with the damn "pull the lever, turn the crank" puzzles...

[Three of Nineteen]

GoW 3 is VERY light on puzzles. There is like one area with a few puzzles that are a small brain teaser but everything else is blatantly obvious.

[Team Andromeda]

Red Ronin, on 20 March 2010 - 10:33 AM, said:

"Yes believe the hype People , this game is incredible on every level , the scale , the action , the graphics just are unmatched to what we have on display in this tile . Honestly its just incredible, what is happing on screen, and it plays and controls brilliantly ."

I'm not likely to play God of War III any time soon. But... This tends to be an anti-hype bulletin board. When you tag your initial post with "Believe the Hype !!!" you are bound to be challenged. I mean, come on - three exclamation points? Enthusiasm is cool, but most of us would prefer you expound a bit more about the specifics of your impressions. Yes, that is preferred over what appears to have become a "my game is better than your game, so there" roundelay.

So I ask, what makes God of War III so great? Why should I play it? Thanks!


Red Ronin

Or is it more the point , that this is a PS3 exclusive and lets try and find any sort of possible flaws?.
What do you want to know RED, that the game plays just as good as Part 1 , that's is a lot fairer than Part II, That the Combat is near Perfect , That the graphics are the best you'll see on any system , or in any game to date ? I'm talking Bosses the size of Mountains , dozens of characters on screen , muscles rippling and blood dripping down the side of one face , all in game, all with no slowdown, and all with super smooth and stunning realistic animation . Then add in , the best lighting effects , the best Depth of Field Effects , and some of the best Motion Blur too , and this is a Showcase game in every sense of the word .

You know like when one 1st Played Orta , Its much the same as what had gone before , but all tuned and dressed up to near Perfection. The game that would make fans happy, and a game to show off the power of the X-Box
Like when one plays Gear of Wars II , it's again much the same , but everything is factored up to 10 , and where one goes OMG , I didn't think this was possible or when one plays GTA 4 , it's much the same game , but the scale and visual spectacular , is just on another level (for those that like GTA)


Forget the demo , because the level that makes up the demo , is vastly different in the Actual game , and a whole new load of Lighting , DOP effects have been added .
I still say Ninja Gaiden is the better action platform type game , and Ninja Gaien II has the better combat systems . But has it stands now , this is the best action game on the next gen systems , and by far and away the best looking game I have ever seen so far. If you like Action games, or if you like God Of War , then this is about as good as its gets

[ZP..]

Team Andromeda, on 21 March 2010 - 08:26 AM, said:

But has it stands now , this is the best action game on the next gen systems , and by far and away the best looking game I have ever seen so far.

I haven't played GoW 3, but I get the impression from most reviews and gamers that Bayonetta is the deeper and more enjoyable game to play. It is the new benchmark, not Ninja Gaiden. I bought a guide book on it and it's over 400 A4 pages long in small print, weighs nearly 2kg, has accompanying online videos, and still doesn't go into quite as much detail as I thought it would do given the page count. Yet the game is still fairly easy to play through to the end on the lower difficulty levels. Bayonetta really is the closest thing to the Virtua Fighter of action games. Perhaps more so, given that I enjoyed the Jeanne fights more than any battle in a fighting game. I would have liked a 2 player vs. mode for just those bits alone.

GoW 3 certainly has the graphics, but this is relatively easy when the camera is fixed. While videos from it impressed me a great deal as a visual spectacle with its detail, effects and choreography, technically it doesn't seem so remarkable to me. I concede that the character models are practically a match for any 1-on-1 fighting game though.

[Three of Nineteen]

Don't know if I would say the character models are that great tbh. Kratos certainly looks he part but some
models are quite poor, Hera especially looks more home on the streets of Yokusuka in ShenMue than in a PS 3 game.

I do agree though that the combat in Bayonetta is better than GoW3. It is just a lot more varied than GoW and rewarding.

This post has been edited by Three of Nineteen: 21 March 2010 - 07:14 PM